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Wednesday, January 21, 2009

HALTED: Will Apple be halted in AH when it delivers a $1 Billion beat on the Top Line?

Shares of Apple, Inc (Nasdaq: AAPL) might be halted after the close of regular trading today due to much higher than expected revenue and earnings results. Occasionally, stocks will be halted when a company's earnings results come in at levels that are far beyond the normal variance seen in a typical earnings report. In Q1 2007, for example, the NASDAQ halted trading in Apple when it delivered a pretty hefty beat both on the top and bottom lines. The NASDAQ will typically halt trading in a stock when big market moving news is pending. They do this both to allow a settling in of the news, and to give market makers time to organize the buy and sell orders in orderly fashion. I think this particular report might be one of those situations where the NASDAQ halts trading as Apple's earnings results are released to the public.

Analysts polled by Thomson Financial expect Apple to report earnings of $1.38 in EPS on $9.74 billion in revenue when Apple releases its results shortly after the close of trading this afternoon. The analysts are looking for Apple to sell approximately 4.5 million iPhones, 18.5 million iPods and about 2.45 million Macs this quarter. I'm looking for Apple to beat those expectations quite handedly. I expect Apple to report earnings of $1.81 in EPS on $10.730 billion in revenue driven in part by sales of 7.11 million iPhones, 20 million iPods and 2.72 million Macs. On a non-GAAP basis, I'm expecting Apple to report earnings of $3.12 in EPS on $13.646 billion in revenue driven by approximately $4.266 billion in fully recognized iPhone revenue. The tables below outline my earnings forecast, and unit sales estimates for Apple's first fiscal quarter of 2009:

Andy Zaky's Earnings Estimates for Q1 2009 (in Millions, except for per share data)

GAAP-Based Est.

Non-GAAP Est.

Difference

Revenue

$10,730

$13,646

(27.2%) $2,916

Cost of Goods Sold

$7,028

$8,256

$1,228

Gross Margin

(34.5%) $3,702

(39.5%) $5,390

$1,688

Operating Expenses

$1,510

$1,510

-

Operating Income

$2,192

$3,880

$1,688

OI&E

$150

$150

-

Net, Before Taxes

$2,342

$4,030

$1,688

Taxes

(29.5%) $691

(29.5%) $1,189

$498

Net Income

$1,651

$2,841

$1,190

Earnings Per Share

$1.81

$3.12

(72.4%) $1.31

Diluted Shares

912,000,000

912,000,000

-

Revenue Breakdown by Unit Sales for Q1 2009

Product

Unit Sales

ASP

GAAP Revenue

Non-GAAP Revenue

iPods

20,000,000

$165.00

$3.300 Billion

$3.300 Billion

Macintosh Computers

2,720,000

$1,500.00

$4.080 Billion

$4.080 Billion

iPhone Sales

7,110,000

$600.00

$1.350 Billion

$4.266 Billion

iTunes

-

-

$1.000 Billion

$1.00 Billion

Software

-

-

$520 Million

$520 Million

Peripherals

-

-

$480 Million

$480 Million

Total Revenue

-

-

$10.730 Billion

$13.646 Billion


At the outset of the quarter, I offered detailed arguments as to why there might be such a disparity between analyst consensus estimates and reality (see here). The analysts simply got too carried away with the chopping of their estimates this quarter, and they let the bear get the best of them. If previous earnings debacles weren't already embarrassing enough for the analysts, then this quarter should be one for the books. The sad part is that all of the data in support of my estimates are available to the public at large. All it takes to accurately forecast Apple's results is basic math and common sense – Wall Street analysts seem to lack in both regards. The table below outlines earnings estimates from several prominent Wall Street analysts along with a few rather accurate, but unaffiliated analysts.

Q1 2009 Analyst Estimates GAAP-Based (Lowest Est. in Red; Highest in Green)

Analyst

Revenue

EPS

iPhones

iPods

Macs

Peter Oppenheimer,
Apple Inc.

$9-10 Billion

$1-1.35

N/A

N/A

N/A

Analyst Consensus, Thomson Financial

$9.740 Billion

$1.38

4.5 Million

18.5 Million

2.5 Million

Unaffiliated Analysts

Revenue

EPS

iPhones

iPods

Macs

Andy Zaky,
Bullish Cross

$10.730 Billion

$1.81

7.11 Million

20.0 Million

2.72 Million

Turley Muller, Financial Alchemist

$10.734 Billion

$1.80

5.85 Million

18.0 Million

2.65 Million

Deagol,
AFB Member

$10.880 Billion

$1.80

6 Million

19.5 Million

2.7 Million

Wall Street Analysts

Revenue

EPS

iPhones

iPods

Macs

Gene Munster,
Piper Jaffray

$10.00 Billion

$1.32

6.4 Million

18.6 Million

2.627 Million

Mike Abramsky,
RBC Capital

$9.800 Billion

$1.48

4.5 Million

20.4 Million

2.50 Million

Toni Sacconaghi Jr.
Bernstein Research

$9.293 Billion

$1.47

3.5 Million

18.1 Million

2.57 Million

Yair Reiner,
Oppenheimer

$9.928 Billion

$1.39

4.8 Million

17.683

2.57 Million

Doug Reid,
Thomas Weisel

N/A

$1.44

4.9 Million

18.500 Million

2.53 Million

Scott Craig,
Merrill Lynch

$9.75 Billion

$1.48

4.2 Million

17.697 Million

2.429 Million

Richard Gardner,
Citi Group

$9.90 Billion

$1.42

4.0 Million

N/A

N/A

Ben Reitzes,
Barclays Capital

$9.398 Billion

$1.31

4.5 Million

19.245 Million

2.405 Million

Wendy Abramowitz,
Argus Research

$9.7 Billion

$1.52

N/A

N/A

N/A

Kathryn Huberty,
Morgan Stanley

N/A

N/A

4 Million

16 Million

2.6 Million

Some notable highlights from the table above include the rather bearish outlook by Toni Sacconaghi from Bernstein Research who is famous for incorrectly predicting that Apple would not meet its internal but highly publicized goal of selling 10 million iPhones in 2008 (Apple completed the feat in 9 months). Sacconaghi is looking for Apple to come in at the extreme low end of its proffered revenue guidance of $9 billion. I guess Sacconaghi has a difficult time understanding the term "prudence" which Apple repeatedly used in its Q4 conference call to describe the nature of its guidance. While it was difficult to secure full estimates from Kathryn Huberty, her revenue expectations are likely quite low given the fact that she is once again modeling for apocalyptic iPod sales. This wouldn't be the first time Huberty has modeled for the complete destruction of Apple's financials, and it certainly won't be the first time she is shown to be dead wrong either.

Also interesting is how all three unaffiliated analysts arrived at very tight estimates for Q1. Both Deagol from Mac Observer's AFB (famous for his accuracy in forecasting based on his tracking of web orders is forecasting sales) and Turley Muller from the Financial Alchemist have come within a few million dollars in revenue of my own revenue estimates. Each of us is basically looking for $1.80 in EPS when Apple reports this afternoon.

In terms of non-GAAP earnings forecasts, several analysts including Yair Reiner and Ben Reitzes simply failed to provide estimates for Apple's adjusted earnings in their research reports despite the fact that Apple promised to report adjusted earnings on an on-going basis. I was able to secure non-GAAP revenue estimates from a few analysts however, and each is presented in the table below.

Q1 2009 Analyst Estimates Non-GAAP (Highest Est. in Green; Lowest in Red)

Unaffiliated Analyst

Revenue

EPS

iPhones

iPhone ASP

iPhone Rev.

Andy Zaky,
Bullish Cross

$13.646 Billion

$3.12

7.11 Million

$600

$4.266 Billion

Turley Muller,
Financial Alchemist

$13.171 Billion

$2.72

5.85

$610

$3.782 Billion

Deagol,
AFB Member

$13.425 Billion

$2.83

6 Million

$600

$3.600 Billion

Wall Street Analysts

Revenue

EPS

iPhones

iPhone ASP

iPhone Rev.

Gene Munster,
Piper Jaffray

$12.422 Billion

$2.70

6.4 Million

$558.91

$3.577 Billion

Toni Sacconaghi Jr.,
Bernstein Research

$10.400 Billion

$1.88

3.5 Million

$600

$2.100 Billion

Scott Craig,
Merrill Lynch

$11.233

$2.02

4.2 Million

$632.61

$2.657 Billion

The table above should highlight just how delusional some Wall Street analysts can be regarding Apple's financial situation. Toni Sacconaghi's non-GAAP estimates have risen beyond the level of mere incompetence to outright negligence. Sacconaghi's non-GAAP revenue estimates are almost $400 million below the unaffiliated analyst consensus for GAAP-based revenue! If Apple does happen to report in-line with our expectations, Sacconaghi will have missed calling Apple's revenue by more than $3 billion! It will be interesting to see if his clients continue to place any weight in his future forecasts if such an event happens to come to pass. After all, why pay for a research report if you could do a better job guessing?

Macintosh Sales Estimate
I arrive at the 2.72 million Mac unit sales estimate based on interpreting quarterly data released by the Gartner Group on computer sales in the United States. I also use IDC and NPD data as secondary sources to compliment my primary analysis. Gartner data is especially helpful in that it typically predicts about 44-46% of Apple's total sales during fiscal Q1 and Q4 while accurately predicting between 55-63% of Apple's total Mac sales in Q2 and Q3 of any given fiscal year. While this quarter is unusual in that it is difficult to tell just how well Mac sales fared in Europe, the fact that Apple grew its U.S. sales rather dramatically on YoY basis might suggest that things are not as bad as they might seem. I place a lot less emphasis on NPD data because NPD focus exclusively on retail chain store sales. Apple's own retail has been growing at an explosive pace and to extrapolate Mac sales data from NPD findings places the analyst on rather dangerous grounds. Especially in an environment where retail sales are sinking and online sales are booming. To read a full in-depth analysis on this method of forecasting Mac sales, click here. Gartner data this quarter seems to suggest that Apple will post sales of 2.670 to 2.852 million Macs.

Quarterly Released Gartner Data Compared to Actual Macintosh Sales

Gartner U.S. Sales

Total Actual Mac Sales

U.S. Sales as a % of Total Macs

Q1 2009

1,255,000

*2,720,000

*46.14%

Q4 2008

1,645,000

2,611,000

63.00%

Q3 2008

1,397,000

2,496,000

55.97%

Q2 2008

1,010,000

2,289,000

44.12%

Q1 2008

1,035,000

2,319,000

44.63%

Q4 2007

1,338,000

2,164,000

61.83%

Q3 2007

1,011,000

1,764,000

57.31%

Q2 2007

741,000

1,517,000

48.85%

Q1 2007

808,000

1,606,000

50.31%

Q4 2006

975,000

1,610,000

60.56%

Q3 2006

N/A

1,327,000

N/A

Macintosh Unit Sales Breakdown by Region

Q2 06

Q3 06

Q4 06

Q1 07

Q2 07

Q3 07

Q4 07

Q1 08

Q2 08

Q3 08

Q4 08

Americas

494

642

781

625

605

824

965

841

884

1,134

1,121

Europe

316

301

342

491

433

393

499

705

627

576

611

Japan

82

79

62

70

79

81

72

91

118

102

78

Retail

154

216

323

308

275

330

473

504

458

476

596

Other

66

89

102

112

125

136

155

178

202

208

205

Total

1112

1327

1610

1606

1517

1764

2164

2319

2289

2,496

2,611


Comparing Actual U.S. Sales with Total Actual Sales

Americas + Retail

Outside U.S.

Total Macs

U.S. % Total Macs

Q4 2008

1,717,000

894,000

2,611,000

65.76%

Q3 2008

1,610,000

866,000

2,496,000

64.50%

Q2 2008

1,342,000

947,000

2,289,000

58.62%

Q1 2008

1,345,000

974,000

2,319,000

58.00%

Q4 2007

1,438,000

726,000

2,164,000

66.45%

Q3 2007

1,154,000

610,000

1,764,000

65.42%

Q2 2007

880,000

637,000

1,517,000

58.01%

Q1 2007

933,000

673,000

1,606,000

58.09%

Q4 2006

1,104,000

506,000

1,610,000

68.57%

Q3 2006

858,000

469,000

1,327,000

64.60%

Q2 2006

648,000

464,000

1,112,000

58.27%

Q1 2006

708,000

546,000

1,254,000

56.46%

A Note on iPhone Sales Estimates
Last quarter, the analysts missed on their iPhone sales forecasts by an average of 72%. Even bullish analysts such as Gene Munster from Piper Jaffray missed iPhone estimates by close to 30%. The unaffiliated analysts, by contrast, all came within 8% of the actual number. The unaffiliated analysts arrive at their iPhone estimates by tracking IMEI data which unofficially tracks the actual production rate of the iPhone by analyzing the TACs or numbering system used by Apple. Not the hocas pocus nonsense methods which seem to be employed by Wall Street analysts and which lead them to miss estimates by 72%. In all seriousness, what the hell is the point of using a research method that leads one to miss estimates by a whopping 72%!?!?!?!

At the end of November, IMEI data suggested that Apple had produced its 15 millionth 3G iPhone. Yet, no data is available for the month of December so a lot guess work has to go into how might have happened in December. Since its debut Apple has produced, on average, about 3 million iPhones per month. If one conservatively assumes that Apple produced only 1 million iPhones in December (only 33% of the normal rate), that would put Apple at a total of 16 million 3G iPhones produced. If one subtracts the 3G iPhones Apple already reported as sold in Q4 2008 (6.89 million), one will arrive at a total of 9,110,000 iPhones that could have potentially been sold. However, one always has to assume that about 2 million iPhones are sitting in Apple's inventory, are replacements for defective iPhones, or are damaged during the manufacturing process. Thus, if one subtracts about 2 million iPhones from the total potential sales for the quarter, one would arrive at 7.11 million iPhone sales. Read more about this extremely accurate method of forecasting iPhone sales here.

Analyst FY 2009 Earnings Forecast for Apple, Inc.
While investors should rightly focus on Apple's Q1 earnings results out after the market closes today, I think it's important to hold analysts accountable for their obvious errors in forecasting 2009 earnings results. So before analysts are quick to adjust the FY 2009 estimates after Apple reports tomorrow, I thought it would be nice to remind everyone how these analysts have handled themselves over the past few months. The table below outlines several Wall Street analyst estimates, price targets and buy ratings for FY 2009. I find it interesting that it's a lot easier to locate a Wall Street analyst's FY 2009 estimate than it is to find that same analyst's estimate for the current accounting period.

FYE 2009 Analyst Estimates for Apple, Inc. (Highest Est. in Green; Lowest in Red)

Unaffiliated Analyst

Revenue

EPS

Price Target

Rating

Analyst Consensus,
Thomson Financial

$35.840 Billion

$5.00

$124.39

Buy

Andy Zaky,
Bullish Cross

$40.636 Billion

$6.47

$175

Buy

Turley Muller,
Financial Alchemist

$37.378 Billion

$6.16

$165

Buy

Deagol,
AFB Member

$41.134 Billion

$6.51

N/A

Buy

Wall Street Analysts

Revenue

EPS

Price Target

Rating

Gene Munster,
Piper Jaffray

$38.860 Billion

$5.46

$235

Buy

Mike Abramsky,
RBC Capital

$36.200 Billion

$5.00

$70

Underperform

Scott Craig,
Merrill Lynch

$35.954 Billion

$5.18

$110

Buy

Mark Moskowitz,
JP Morgan

$34.700 Billion

$4.75

$102

Overweight

Toni Sacconaghi Jr.
Bernstein Research

$34.197 Billion

$5.04

$135

Outperform

Yair Reiner,
Oppenheimer

$37.352 Billion

$5.36

$120

Outperform

Shaw Wu,
Kaufman Bros.

$35.510 Billion

$5.05

$120

Buy

Andy Hargreaves,
Pacific Crest

$35.940 Billion

$5.73

$160

Outperform

Ben Reitzes,
Barclays Capital

$34.406 Billion

$4.75

$113

Overweight

David Bailey,
Goldman Sachs

-

$4.54

$115

Neutral

Doug Reid,
Thomas Weisel

-

$5.31

$130

Overweight

Vijay Rakesh,
Think Equity

-

$4.78

$110

Buy

Richard Gardner,
Citi Group

-

$4.78

$132

Buy

Keith Bachman,
BMO Capital

-

$4.60

$108

Outperform

Brian Marshall,
AmTech

-

$4.87

$95

Neutral

Kathryn Huberty,
Morgan Stanley

-

$4.37

$95

Equal Weight

Maynard Um,
UBS

-

$5.20

$115

Neutral


60 comments:

Anonymous said...

Great work Andy. Keep up the good work, I always come to your site first, you do excellent work, dont let the haters stop you from doing your work.

Anonymous said...

Small typo on the top of the table Quarterly Released Gartner Data Compared to Actual Macintosh Sales.

It should be Q1 2009 not Q1 2008.

Andy M. Zaky said...

"Anonymous said...
Great work Andy. Keep up the good work, I always come to your site first, you do excellent work, dont let the haters stop you from doing your work."

Thanks for the encouragement.


"Anonymous said...
Small typo on the top of the table Quarterly Released Gartner Data Compared to Actual Macintosh Sales.

It should be Q1 2009 not Q1 2008."

Nice catch. Fixed.

Anonymous said...

yeah..pretty helpful...with all the charts and such.

appreciate it.

Anonymous said...

Great work once again

sean said...

Athough I think your unit sales numbers are too high, except for ipods, due to touch sales, but especially for iphones, they're likeley to be closer than anyone elses. A thorough and a valueable reference for the future.
You've done good in shedding light on incompetent Apple analysis and hopefully investors will refer back to this article in the future when we have to hear the same bullshit from the same people next quarter.

Anonymous said...

Awesome analysis, Andy. I'm pulling for you to make the "professionals" look like fools once again.

Anonymous said...

Great job Andy. I am pulling for you and the rest of the indi's that don't follow the herd. Something seems serously wrong with their numbers, do they live in the real world?

Noticed a TYPO: I-phone sales estimates paragrapy. You wrote "In all serously," It should be "In all seriousness"

Anonymous said...

Andy your numbers seem to be right on the money most of the time. It is a shame that people that are paid to do this analysis can be off so far so often. 3:45 posting of this article!! Do you ever sleep?

Keep up the good work!!!

Frieda said...

I have invested so much on apple and I have lost a lot this year. I hope that you are right and I am crazy to putting so much on apple

Anonymous said...

I spoke to a friend recently who works at an Apple retail store in Central Florida and he told me that their gross revenue last Q was 45M. Multiply that by the number of stores they have (200?) and it gives you an idea of the huge sales they have been enjoying.
I also want to point out that the iTouch is nowhere to be found at the local Costco and Sams Club; they have been sold out for weeks

Anonymous said...

Great analysis Andy, you should be paid for the work you done. I think what is driving the current share price is upcoming quarters. Market expects growth to slow down. I hope they are wrong and AAPL can provide an upside forecast but to be honest, I'm expecting the worst and that's where I plan to add more shares (any price below 75-80 is good for me). I am too down significantly this year (avg price at 118) but I made so much the last 2 years that it's a wash. Still very bullish on Apple and hope Jobs come back strong and innovative as usual. His hiatus may be good for the company so market will get use to having Jobs play a lesser role. New products will arrive for sure, like mini-Macs, I-Phone Nano, a more compatible corporate I-Phone. Heck, maybe expand the phone lines and open up to other carriers. So many growth opportunities for AAPL.

Good luck all and God Bless!

Anonymous said...

Great analysis, Andy! Even though I think your numbers may be somewhat to the high side, I have no doubt Apple will blow past the so called "professional analysts" estimates. However, I'm afraid they will provide their usual conservative guidance and that will keep the stock from rocketing.

I can see the headlines: Apple Outlook Disappoints! The SKY IS FALLING!

Dzr_greg said...

Hello Andy
i'm impress about your work. I just have little doubt about the Iphone numbers, i would be very surprise if Iphone number are as high as you expect that would be huge.

I hope you are right and finally the market will trade on fundamental.

Anonymous said...

Andy what about their guidance?? Will they warn bigtime i mean be too conservative???? thoughts

Mister Snitch! said...

"I'm looking for Apple to beat those expectations quite handedly."

The word you're looking for is "handily".

bmwtwisty said...

Y'know, Andy, if you're right again this time you will have established a solid, credible reputation. I am rooting for both you and Apple, which I hold. I'm impressed yet again by your analysis - not analisis, as is the scourge afflicting so may of these clueless "professionals."

Roger said...

Andy,

Thanks for all your hard work! Does your analysis include the deferred revenue that is coming due this quarter, and if so, is that broken out somewhere. For instance, does your GAAP based iPhone revenue estimate include deferred revenue that is falling due this quarter plus one-eighth of new iPhone sales? So, when you model 10.7 billion in revenue (GAAP basis), that includes deferred revenue that is recognized this quarter, right?

Thanks,

Roger

Dan said...

Nice work, Andy. Really impressed with your analysis and I love the fact that you are so transparent in your methodology. Keep up the great work on Apple. Would love to hear your thoughts on other interesting investment targets.

Andy M. Zaky said...

"Andy,

Thanks for all your hard work! Does your analysis include the deferred revenue that is coming due this quarter, and if so, is that broken out somewhere. For instance, does your GAAP based iPhone revenue estimate include deferred revenue that is falling due this quarter plus one-eighth of new iPhone sales? So, when you model 10.7 billion in revenue (GAAP basis), that includes deferred revenue that is recognized this quarter, right?

Thanks,
Roger"

Yup. Its in there - $880 million was the contribution from previous quarters.

Andy M. Zaky said...

"Anonymous said...
Andy what about their guidance?? Will they warn bigtime i mean be too conservative???? thoughts"

They will be conservative as always. How conservative? Who knows?

Pat said...

Well done, the world will figure it out someday, what Apple really is and how there are a thousand Steve Jobs within Apple. I have been long Apple since his speech at Stanford University in 2005 and will always be long Apple, Steve simply gets it. Just wrote aobut it on our blog, Bicycles for Humanity, not looking for a free plug, but Steve's Stanford speech has been on our website since day one and our movement models what Steve believes and it works. I think that between analysts who do not understand a new model company and Microsoft loyal that bash Apple and look for what is wrong, I think this quarter will open a few eyes, well done, pat

King Lear said...

I see Yahoo took this post of yours off their list of blogs on Apple. One or more analysts must have complained about your comments.

What counts is whether you and the other amateur analysts are more correct than those paid for their work. However this comes out, I really appreciate your research, thanks.

Anonymous said...

@King Lear

Clean up you lenses and look again, it's there.

Anonymous said...

Guidance:

I expect something like a 0.85 through 1.10 top.

Toni

Dasgeek said...

Great article. I also enjoyed your discussion of how Apple's accounting for iPhone sales over 24 months has affected there stock price.

Of course all the press will talk about after the earnings call will be the health of Steve Jobs.

Anonymous said...

Andy - Have you ever tried to break out the iPod Touch unit sales from within the iPod category? If so, have you had any luck?

Anonymous said...

Well, it wasn't halted but it is up big time! How about those iPod numbers?!

Anonymous said...

just about on the money. Nice work

Anonymous said...

"I expect something like a 0.85 through 1.10 top.
Toni
January 21, 2009 12:01 PM"


Looking ahead to the second fiscal quarter of 2009, we expect diluted earnings per share in the range of about $.90 to $1.00

Thank you.

Toni.

Anonymous said...

Congratulations to you Andy - you are the AAPL man. You should be expecting a few job offers in the near future from some investment firms looking for some substance.

Good work.
-Aaron

Anonymous said...

Great job Andy. You were a voice of reason among all the gloom.

ST said...

WOW...Spot on!
Andy did better than all of Wall Street!

Anonymous said...

Hi Andy,

It looks like Apple's Non-GAAP revenue was $14.1 billion.
Is this correct?

Anonymous said...

Hey Andy,

What can we expect during the day tomorrow. You have been right so far...why not go two for two. Thanks and i enjoy reading your blog, GO AAPL.

Cloth said...

Wow, Andy, you're the man--very impressive! The icing on the cake was sticking it the yahoos that had crazy bear numbers, especially Sacconaghi--what a rube.

Anonymous said...

"What can we expect during the day tomorrow."

A selloff obviuosly.

A lot of articles about the guidance missing streets estimates.

Some articles about the "sure thing" sec investigations.

Some questions about "why didn't give more info about Job's state".

Back to 82 in 5 days I suppose.

Toni.

Anonymous said...

Well the 850M - 1 BL beat was really off mark.

Anonymous said...

"Back to 82 in 5 days I suppose."

Maybe I'm too optimist.

Anonymous said...

"January 15, 2009 4:11 AM"
-------------------------

Apple will beat (how much is irrilevant).

It will pop in after hour.

The guidance will be conservative again. Extremely.

At the opening, since no one want to risk AGAIN to own AAPL long term, there will be profit taking.

The shorts knowing that, will short the pop (easy money AGAIN).

AAPL will drift to the price it was before the earnings in the coming days."

Just to be clear.

Anonymous said...

Poor Apple, will be crushed again, it's really sad.

Anonymous said...

"HALTED: Will Apple be halted in AH when it delivers a $1 Billion beat on the Top Line?"

We'll never know. I didn't see a 1 billion beat, or the stock halted.

I saw the stock pop and then start to drift back, a process will continue tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

Andy, are you going to revise down your expectations now ?

You said "Apple will Beat 2009 Revenue Consensus by $900 million per Quarter"

This quarter was $10.167 Bil - (analysts estimates) $9.75 Bil = 417 millions.

So less than half of your expectations.

Toni

Anonymous said...

iPhones: 4.363 million

Do I see 7+ million in your table ?

JP said...

Your ATOM feeds show up on an older post, your new stuff doesn't go into iGoogle gadget properly, you might want to take a look at that. Looked as though July earnings was your last post.

Looks like IMEI data was dead wrong by a wide margin. RBC right on the money with almost all units predictions. Back to the drawing board I guess?

Anonymous said...

Hey Andy - how do you balance the IMEI data - iphone sales and inventory ?

Emperor Lewis said...

Andy, Awesome job. I love how you made wall street look like weatherman.

So me and my wify made a bet this morning that if you were within 5 cents of the bottom line, she could sleep with you (She thinks your good looking)...I think I may have to retract my bet....Good job and keep doing what your doing.

VectorJunkie said...

I wonder how much the iPhone 3G gift card through off your estimates for iPhones. I missed part of the call but really hope someone asked Apple how many of those they sold in the quarter.

Millionaire Acts said...

Wow, very nice and technical blog. You must be a very good trader!

Anonymous said...

someone has to call these analysts out. How can people who get paid like they do be so off. They are reall horrible.

A.S said...

Andy , great job on the EPS !! Will u update us with your opinion post earnings , especially now with Munster joining the idiot crowd and expect 5.46 for 2010!!

Anonymous said...

"Wow, very nice and technical blog. You must be a very good trader!"

LOL

Anonymous said...

Apple Introduces Revolutionary New Laptop With No Keyboard

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA

Anonymous said...

I haven't seen anyone address the iPhone Gift Card issue. Questions ilke,

How many iPhone gift cards were sold but not activated until after Q1 (Dec 27) and thus, not in the 4.4M number?

Do they count the profit from the gift cards when purchased (and thus, in Q1) or again, when activated?

Anonymous said...

Andy, when do we get your analysis as to how your "extremely accurate method of forecasting iPhone sales" failed so significantly? This isn't intended as a facetious or belligerent comment - more a genuine question of wonderment. How did it go so wrong?

Anonymous said...

Andy, are you going to revise down your expectations now ?

You said "Apple will Beat 2009 Revenue Consensus by $900 million per Quarter"

This quarter was $10.167 Bil - analysts estimates of $9.75 Bil = 417 millions.

So less than half of your expectations.

And when do we get your analysis as to how your "extremely accurate method of forecasting iPhone sales" failed so significantly? This is intended as a facetious or belligerent comment. How did it go so wrong?

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jeromine said...

Hi Nice Blog .If your time is less valuable, then it is probably less worthwhile to phone time card.

fatalbert707 said...

Hey Andy, Don't know if you will read this or not but I think this is the quarter you get the $1 billion beat on the top line. I am looking at $8.7 billion top line with 3.5 million iphones and $1.51 billion in iphone revenue. 2million macs, 11 million ipods, Some analyst have appl at $7.4 billion top line. Can't wait for next article next week.

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