Wall Street investors are holding their breath as Apple (AAPL) is set to report earnings after the close of regular trading this afternoon. This particular report will be one of the most crucial in the company's history as Wall Street and her analysts have completely written Apple off as a business that could thrive in a slower economic environment. In order for Apple's shares to recover from its recent 50% plunge in value, Apple will have to demonstrate its resilience in this slowing economy by both reporting strong earnings results and offering some compelling guidance. In the past, Apple has consistently offered the street ultra conservative guidance, basically rendering such guidance useless when it comes to how the company will actually perform. Yet, irrational investors on Wall Street continue to be completely preoccupied with Apple's meaningless guidance making it extremely difficult for Apple to rebound until management gets a clue that its conservative nonsense is not working in this particular environment. Apple should either take a page from Google's book and not offer guidance at all, or offer guidance that is more realistic in this skittish environment. Analysts polled by Thomson Financial expect Apple to post earnings of $1.11 in EPS on $8.05 billion in revenue fueled by sales of 2.7 million Macs, 10.5 million iPods and about 4 million iPhones. For Q1 2009, analysts are generally looking for Apple to report $1.66 in EPS on $10.6 billion in revenue. I am looking for Apple to record approximately $1.25 in EPS on $8.343 billion in revenue. I expect Apple to sell 2.9 million Macs, 11 million iPods and about 7.25 million iPhones. I expect Apple to report that it reached its 10 millionth iPhone sales goal a full three months ahead of schedule. I expect gross margins to drop sequentially to 33.5%, operating expenses to rise to $1.310 billion, and OI&E to rise to $122 million. I expect Apple to post net income of about $1.33 billion after taxes of $474 million. In terms of the revenue breakdown from Apple's primary operations, I am looking for Apple to produce $4.118 billion in revenue from Mac sales (2.9 million Macs at $1,420.00 ASP), $1.595 billion in iPod revenue (11 million iPods at $145 ASP), and a total of about $2.63 billion derived from its other primary operations (this includes revenue Apple recognizes through its other music related products and services, iPhone and related products & services, peripherals & other hardware, and software, service and other sales). The table below lists my estimates along with two other analysts whose opinions I highly respect. Line Item Apple's Forecast Andy Zaky, Bullish Cross Deagol, Stashbox Turley Muller, Financial Alch. Revenue $7,800 $8,343 $8,333 $8,436 Cost of Goods Sold $5,343 $5,548 $5,541 $5,736 Gross Margin (31.5%) $2,457 (33.5%) $2,795 (33.5%) $2,792 (32.0%) $2,699 OpEx $1,270 $1,310 $1,292 $1,270 Operating Income $1,187 $1,485 $1,500 $1,429 OI&E $118 $122 $122 $130 Net, before taxes $1,305 $1,607 $1,622 $1,559 Taxes (30.5%) $398 (29.5%) $474 (30.0%) $486 (29.0%) $452 Net Income $907 $1,133 $1,136 $1,107 Earnings Per Share $1.00 $1.25 $1.25 $1.22 Outstanding Shares 907,000,000 907,000,000 907,000,000 906,000,000 Line Item Consensus Estimates Andy Zaky, Bullish Cross Deagol, Stashbox Turley Muller, Financial Alch. Macintosh Sales 2,700 2,900 2,880 2,961 Macintosh Revenue - $4,118 $4,072 $4,160 iPod Sales 10,500 11,000 11,000 11,200 iPod Revenue - $1,595 $1,540 $1,680 iPhone Sales 4,000 7,250 7,500 6,800 iPhone Rev. Recognized - $850 $894 $748 iTunes & Other Music - $800 $837 $811 Other Hardware - $460 $454 $467 Other Software - $520 $538 $559 Total Revenue $8,050 $8,343 $8,333 $8,436 My Estimates Compared to Wall Street Analysts Analyst Revenue EPS G.M. iPhones iPods Macs Apple's Guidance $7.8b $1.00 31.5% - - - The Consensus Estimates $8.05b $1.11 30.5% 4.0m 10.5m 2.7m Unpaid Analysts Andy Zaky, Bullish Cross $8.343b $1.25 33.5% 7.25m 11.0m 2.9m Deagol, Stashbox.org $8.333b $1.25 33.5% 7.5m 11.0m 2.880m Turley Muller, Financial Alchemist $8.436b $1.22 32.0% 6.8m 11.2m 2.961m Wall Street Analysts Jeff Fidacaro, Merrill Lynch $7.969b $1.09 32.7% 3.88m 11.0m 2.7m Gene Munster, Piper Jaffray $8.370b $1.17 32.0% 5.0m 11.0m 2.8m Richard Gardner, Citigroup $8.096b $1.18 - - - - Ben Reitzes, Barclays $8.00b $1.11 32.9% 5.0m 2.761m Mike Abramsky, RBC $8.200b $1.15 - 6.0m 10.8m 2.9m Kathryn Huberty, $7.865b $1.05 32.9% - - 2.8m Toni Sacconaghi, $8.151b $1.14 32.0% 4.000 10.7m 2.783m My Past Performance compared to Wall Street Analysts for Q2 2008 Analyst Revenue EPS G.M. iPhones iPods Macs Apple, Inc. $7.512b $1.16 32.9% 1.703m 10.644m 2.289m Andy Zaky, Bullish Cross $7.449b $1.31 36.0% 1.700m 10.5m 2.350m Gene Munster, Piper Jaffray $6.900b $1.19 36.0% 1.6-2.0m 10.5m 2.100m Shaw Wu, AmTech $7.000b $1.10 33.5% 1.5m 10.0m 2.150m Richard Gardner, Citigroup $7.000b $1.23 36.5% 1.5m 9.5m 2.100m Ben Reitzes, Barclays $6.950 $1.05 33.2% 1.5m 10.3m 2.090m Mike Abramsky, RBC $7.200b $1.11 34.0% 1.8m 10.5m 2.200m Kathryn Huberty, Morgan Stanley $6.634b $1.10 35.8% 1.0m 8.5m 2.020m Scott Craig, BofA $6.900b $1.07 n/a 1.22m 10.0m 2.021m
Forecasted Income Statement (In Millions, except per share data)
Segment Information & Product Summary (in Millions)
The table below compares my estimates with Wall Street analysts. It should be noted that Kathryn Huberty from Morgan Stanley consistently provides earnings estimates which prove to be one of the worst on Wall Street. I fully expect the trend to continue when Apple reports earnings this afternoon.
Morgan Stanley
Sanford Bernstein
The table below compares my past performance with Wall Street analysts. The numbers highlighted in "blue" designate the closest estimate to Apple's actual report whereas the numbers highlighted in "red" designate the estimate which was furthest from Apple's actual report.
Notice how Kathryn Huberty of Morgan Stanley made the worst call in four out of the six major areas of prediction. She actually missed revenue by almost a cool billion ($815 million). How an analyst can miss that badly and continue to have any credibility in his or her coverage of a stock is beyond me. Credibility should be called into question when an analyst misses iPhone sales by 41%, iPods by a whole 2.1 million units and Macs by 269,000 units. I pointed out the obvious flaws in her analysis before and after earnings was released in Q2 2008. I also tried to point out that investors ought to ignore Kathryn Huberty's estimates and her meaningless downgrades of the stock. In September, she downgraded Apple two weeks in a row causing the stock to drop a cumulative 30 points or about 30% between the two downgrades. I still haven't figured out who is less intelligent: Kathryn Huberty or the irrational investors who continue to listen to anything she has to say.
Disclosure: Long Apple. The information contained in this blog is not to be taken as either an investment or trading recommendation, and serious traders or investors should consult with their own professional financial advisors before acting on any thoughts expressed in this publication.
Tuesday, October 21, 2008
Apple: Q4 2008 Earnings Preview
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One thing I noticed is that your EPS estimates for Q2 were significantly higher than other analysts. I also noticed that even though Huberty was way off with respect to certain sales numbers her EPS estimate for Q2 was closer to Apples actual number than yours. I am NOT downing you. I was just interested to know why your EPS number was so much higher that other analysts and in some cases where their predictins of units sold in various categories was very close to yours. If your EPS numbers are far off by comparison with actual , especially when compared to other analysts who were closer to actual, the utility of your forecasts can also be called into question, though I do think you are very good about analyzing the business. Save for the seemingly too high trend in EPS estimates I think you're great. Keep up the good work.
To anonymous...
Let me just say that you should read the following article:
http://bullcross.blogspot.com/2008/05/bullish-cross-beats-street-in_1251.html
Pay particular attention to my analysts regarding Apple's gross margins. They blind sided every single good analyst on Wall Street. Notice how Gene Munster, and Richard Gardner had higher Gross Margin estimates on the quarter. They guided for that number because it was the only rational conclusion to reach regarding gross margins. The only reason my EPS number was so high was because I was dead accurate on everything else. I called the revenue number within a few million dollars. If Apple's trend in guiding of gross margins remained in tact, I would have missed EPS by a penny. But Apple surprised everyone with the way lower than expected gross margins number which was the center of discussion on the conference call. If its any help, I predicted a $1.20 in EPS last quarter. Apple came in at $1.19.
Andy
I just hope they learn and give respectable guidance. Stock is down from touching 200 i mean if they beat and give same typical ultra conservative guidance whats going to happen to the stock.. I know its a guessing game but what does your gut say on the reaction to these earnings if they come in roughly around your estimates??
To anonymous...
I think if they come in at my estimates and actually sell 7.25 million iPhones, the market will react positively if Apple gives somewhat good guidance. We need to see something that is within reason. If Apple pulls some $1.40 nonsense, the market might freak. But if Apple guides for $1.60+, the market will react positively. that's the way I see it.
Andy,
Thanks for the great work.
Regarding the guidance, clearly Apple is conservative. But in providing guidance for FYQ1 Apple's guidance have exceeded analysts expectations for the last two years. Q1 results still handily beat guidance, but the analysts were so low in what they expected for Q1 guidance that Apple's guidance was higher.
This year we have the global economy as a factor. It will be very telling how Apple view the macro-economic situation relative to future growth.
The puzzle remains for Peter's comment on the last call regarding lower margins related an upcoming product transition. It is hard to make sense of that based on what we have seen with subsequent iPod and laptop announcements. Is there still something to come that will impact margins? If there is, management is confident that it is worth the investment, but it would impact near term results.
Andy,
shoot me an email please, would love to discuss an opputunity with you.
Thanks
Garri
chernyavskiy.g@gmail.com
This is a delightful post.
Yet more than is usual, everything is in the guidance, and they always sandbag #$%$%; it's hard to imagine that changing. Especially now--they're going to say, we don't really know blah blah blah. What else could they say?
Oh, it would be nice if they went wild with guidance! Or how about just give realistic guidance?
What numbers would be good enough to take the stock up? What do people want to hear? A lullaby? Yes, a lullaby, with improved gross margins.
"If Apple pulls some $1.40 nonsense, the market might freak."
LOL 1.06-1.35.
We are fucked.
you were dead on with iphone ests!!!!!
Great call on AAPL. Based on your information, I bought 500 shares yesterday at an average of $94.45 and will get out today up $5+ per. Cheers.
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